What are your opinions on giving "transgender's" the access to go into their choice of bathroom? ie: giving a female-to-male child the choice to go to the bathroom in the boys restroom (and vise-versa).
Trans people should be getting psychological help not being put in regular schools, If you believe you are the opposite sex you should be attempting to find help from doctors or physiologists
Mostly good advice here and surely you'll b encouraged to know that we do get mental health help from psychologists and doctors. Interestingly psychology today says to start living and expressing as the gender that we feel to be, in fact that is the exact proscribed treatment for gender dysphoria. Incidentally the medical doctors concur and even prescribe various hormone cocktails to effect secondary sex characteristics of the target gender and some even perform the surgeries.
Again you give great advice even if it was unintentional.
The only phycological help trans people can get is them transitioning. There have been multiple studies conducted that show transgender brains are more similar to the cis brains of the gender they identify as. Furthermore, the only way to fix gender dysphoria is to transition into a persons true gender. Gender is a social construct and if someone wants to change it that has no affect on you or anyone else whatsoever.
So you think that I should be allowed in the females locker rooms and showers at my gym simply because i can getaway with it by saying im a girl? lol. Aside from the fact anyone who thinks they are something they aren't on such a issue like gender needing mental help, Its not so much about them as it is about those who will simply abuse the ability. If we as a country decide to pander to the minority, like we already do so much, its leading to a horrible and dangerous path to failure in so many bigger picture issues.
Grade A failsauce right there. Let's start at your first assertion. Multiple reports indicate that no transgender individual has ever been arrested for sexual misconduct in a public bathroom, while at least three Republican lawmakers have.
Former U.S. Senator Larry Craig, Florida state Representative Bob Allen, and Mississippi Congressman Jon Hinson were all Republican lawmakers, and were all arrested for sexual misconduct in a public bathroom. But wait, there's more!
Mississippi Republican State Rep. Doug McLeod snapped "as he often does" and punched his wife in the face for undressing too slowly
Jonathan Parker - former Idaho GOP Chair - arrested for stalking, masturbating outside apartments
David Narramore, KY GOP State Executive Committee and Letcher Cty Chair, arrested for exposing himself
And why do you even care what someone has between their legs? What is it with this sick fascination with our genitals? And it is sick and not the good kind of fascination, I've seen the good kind. It's become a pathological and perverse obsession to know what tool kit I'm working with, what position I use under the hood and with who's hood am I under. Ewwwe! It's creepy af, like sexual predator kind of creepy. How about you mind your own business and I'll mind mine? You've got enough on your hands just doing you, don't worry about me.
"All . . . will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect and to violate would be oppression."
-Thomas Jefferson
Majority rule is limited by the supreme law of the constitution, which protects the rights of individuals from the majority idiocracy.
If you bring transgender bathrooms to schools you have to think of the consequences. A boy could spy/bully transgenders in the restroom and no one could tell him shit because he would just tell the teacher "oh I am transgender now" and then technically a day later could say oh I'm not transgender anymore. He could even go as far as to say oh I am only transgender when I enter the transgender restroom.....that is the problem with gender as it is totally up to the mind unlike your sex. You have to look at why bathrooms were created separately in the first place and base what actions you take to rectify the situation on how it would negatively affect those reasons. Now if you were to create intersex bathrooms that would be more plausible in one sense as it is actually a "sex" not a "gender" but completely unreasonable in another sense because the intersex population is like %.05. My point is that nothing is as cut and dry as so many people believe it to be...it takes time and research by experts to come to a reasonable decision on these things.
I don't get it. Do you guys have an open plane bathrooms in US schools? Whre I live, a bathroom could be packed, but we have something called stalls, and I wouldn't even know who occupies them. Unless I'm some pervert who tries to sneak a peek, but I could do that regardless of gender, sexual preference, or what have you.
I sometimes think that USA citizens are thriving on making an issue out of something marginal.. to avoid looking into the real issues within their society, perhaps?
Yeah, this is the why the idea that if you let trans men into mens bathrooms/ trans women into women's bathrooms they will assault/harass people is so idiotic.
There ARE stalls in bathrooms - though men's do have urinals. The point is only perverts and creeps would do such a thing in a bathroom of the opposite or even the same gender, but being trans and perverted do not correlate in any way. The idea that trans people go into bathrooms to harass people is blatantly transphobic.
I think letting men use men's bathrooms and women use women's bathrooms is the bare minimum to be honest, and that includes mtf as women and ftm as men obviously. However I think the way forward is unisex bathrooms which will not only include enby's but make life easier in lots of other aspects, like it will be better for parents with young children of another gender (dad's with daughters/mums with sons).
One draw back of this though is for example Muslim women, they don't uncover their hair where men can see but an easy solution to that is have cubicles with toilets, sink and mirror all together which I think will be better for things like when your on your period as well.
i think trans people should be treated as the gender they chose to be witch includes going to the bathroom for that gender
Do you think a child should have the right to suddenly change and choose their own gender?
Im sorry but um what if i declared myself a girl and walked in a bathroom where your daughter was on the toilet and started looking under the door
@Alex Maloney what if a girl, not a transgender , does it? i think that a person is depraved no matter the gender
Trans people should be getting psychological help not being put in regular schools, If you believe you are the opposite sex you should be attempting to find help from doctors or physiologists
Mostly good advice here and surely you'll b encouraged to know that we do get mental health help from psychologists and doctors. Interestingly psychology today says to start living and expressing as the gender that we feel to be, in fact that is the exact proscribed treatment for gender dysphoria. Incidentally the medical doctors concur and even prescribe various hormone cocktails to effect secondary sex characteristics of the target gender and some even perform the surgeries.
Again you give great advice even if it was unintentional.
The only phycological help trans people can get is them transitioning. There have been multiple studies conducted that show transgender brains are more similar to the cis brains of the gender they identify as. Furthermore, the only way to fix gender dysphoria is to transition into a persons true gender. Gender is a social construct and if someone wants to change it that has no affect on you or anyone else whatsoever.
✨being trans into a mental illness✨
So you think that I should be allowed in the females locker rooms and showers at my gym simply because i can getaway with it by saying im a girl? lol. Aside from the fact anyone who thinks they are something they aren't on such a issue like gender needing mental help, Its not so much about them as it is about those who will simply abuse the ability. If we as a country decide to pander to the minority, like we already do so much, its leading to a horrible and dangerous path to failure in so many bigger picture issues.
Grade A failsauce right there. Let's start at your first assertion. Multiple reports indicate that no transgender individual has ever been arrested for sexual misconduct in a public bathroom, while at least three Republican lawmakers have.
Former U.S. Senator Larry Craig, Florida state Representative Bob Allen, and Mississippi Congressman Jon Hinson were all Republican lawmakers, and were all arrested for sexual misconduct in a public bathroom. But wait, there's more!
SC GOP Rep. Josiah Magnuson attacked and harassed fellow Republican
NV Sheriff Gerald Antinoro - sexual harassment/assault
CA Assemblyman/gubernatorial candidate Travis Allen - sexual harassment
Knox County Judge Steve Sword, appointed by GOP Gov Haslet, sentenced man convicted of 9 counts for raping his 14yo daughter over 2 years to just 12 years rather than the recommended 72 because of his Christianity
Mississippi Republican State Rep. Doug McLeod snapped "as he often does" and punched his wife in the face for undressing too slowly
Jonathan Parker - former Idaho GOP Chair - arrested for stalking, masturbating outside apartments
David Narramore, KY GOP State Executive Committee and Letcher Cty Chair, arrested for exposing himself
And why do you even care what someone has between their legs? What is it with this sick fascination with our genitals? And it is sick and not the good kind of fascination, I've seen the good kind. It's become a pathological and perverse obsession to know what tool kit I'm working with, what position I use under the hood and with who's hood am I under. Ewwwe! It's creepy af, like sexual predator kind of creepy. How about you mind your own business and I'll mind mine? You've got enough on your hands just doing you, don't worry about me.
"All . . . will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect and to violate would be oppression." -Thomas Jefferson
Majority rule is limited by the supreme law of the constitution, which protects the rights of individuals from the majority idiocracy.
If you bring transgender bathrooms to schools you have to think of the consequences. A boy could spy/bully transgenders in the restroom and no one could tell him shit because he would just tell the teacher "oh I am transgender now" and then technically a day later could say oh I'm not transgender anymore. He could even go as far as to say oh I am only transgender when I enter the transgender restroom.....that is the problem with gender as it is totally up to the mind unlike your sex. You have to look at why bathrooms were created separately in the first place and base what actions you take to rectify the situation on how it would negatively affect those reasons. Now if you were to create intersex bathrooms that would be more plausible in one sense as it is actually a "sex" not a "gender" but completely unreasonable in another sense because the intersex population is like %.05. My point is that nothing is as cut and dry as so many people believe it to be...it takes time and research by experts to come to a reasonable decision on these things.
There is nothing beyond this comment. Period.
Gender is a social construct and as a result anyone should be able to use the bathroom they feel most comfortable in.
i think this should never ever be considered.
Give me one, reasonable, non-transphobic, fact/logic/statistically supported reason why?
I don't get it. Do you guys have an open plane bathrooms in US schools? Whre I live, a bathroom could be packed, but we have something called stalls, and I wouldn't even know who occupies them. Unless I'm some pervert who tries to sneak a peek, but I could do that regardless of gender, sexual preference, or what have you.
I sometimes think that USA citizens are thriving on making an issue out of something marginal.. to avoid looking into the real issues within their society, perhaps?
Yeah, this is the why the idea that if you let trans men into mens bathrooms/ trans women into women's bathrooms they will assault/harass people is so idiotic. There ARE stalls in bathrooms - though men's do have urinals. The point is only perverts and creeps would do such a thing in a bathroom of the opposite or even the same gender, but being trans and perverted do not correlate in any way. The idea that trans people go into bathrooms to harass people is blatantly transphobic.
I think letting men use men's bathrooms and women use women's bathrooms is the bare minimum to be honest, and that includes mtf as women and ftm as men obviously. However I think the way forward is unisex bathrooms which will not only include enby's but make life easier in lots of other aspects, like it will be better for parents with young children of another gender (dad's with daughters/mums with sons).
One draw back of this though is for example Muslim women, they don't uncover their hair where men can see but an easy solution to that is have cubicles with toilets, sink and mirror all together which I think will be better for things like when your on your period as well.
Hope this makes sense :)