If you believe life has value, you also should believe in the future potential life in which the baby has. also, if you believe that killing a 1 month old baby is morally wrong, why is killing an 8 month pregnancy ok? There is little difference between the two and both are incapable of intelligent thought.
I ask you if you truly believe that abortion of a 8 or 9 mouth old baby is OK and is one hundred percent up to the mother then why CAN'T anyone just walk around and take a knife to the head of any babe they see? IT MURDER!!! Your stating that the mother has the right to decide weather a HUMAN babe lives or DIES. Sorry might be just me but that just does not sound that joyful and morally right to me.
@AtMan18 You do realize that as a mother, you have to be mentally stable to have and take care of a child (the right way). Forget being finacially stable bc thats a whole different issue. Your job as a mother is to provide and raise your child. You need to teach the right things and be an example for your child. However not everyone is parent material. The mental, amotional, and physical stress of raising a child is strenuous. If you are not mentally stable FIRST, you cannot have a child. Now you are about to say that they can be adopted. My mother was put in foster care for 5 years of her life. She stayed at different homes and not all of them cared about her or her needs. If you are not adopted...you are put in foster care. Some kids stay in foster care until they are 18 and never get adopted. So adoption isn't a garontee(im 16, lmao i cant spell). If a woman does not want a child, she has the right to get an abortion. Also, if you are a man, you have NO SAY AT ALL. in this matter. So go find something else to debate about. No fetus, no opinion.
Edit: I forgot, if us killing our fetus is murder, then so is nutting without having a child. So i guess you jerking off and nutting on your side chicks face is murder as well. ❤️
No, women should not have the right to an abortion, especially as easy as they do now. The #1 reason for an abortion is and always has been due to simply not wanting it or being to young and not ready.
Accountability is literally the backbone to the fundamentals that create legal structure. The reason people dont run around committing the crimes they think or wish to do because they know the consequences of that action.
Pregnancy is no more a side effect or risk of having sex as a life sentence or death penalty is to murder.
However, abortion accounts for more murders in this country then psychopaths do,
Dont want a baby? Dont have sex. Dont want a speeding ticket, dont speed. All these solutions are nothing more than an "out" for peoples inability to do the right thing. Its called weakness.
RIGHT.
You can't compare having a baby/sex as a crime. They aren't the same. A child is not a punishment on the women for having sex, at least half of the accountability of a pregnancy is on the man as well.
illegalising abortion won't stop abortions, only safe ones. More woman will die because of dodgy, backstreet 'doctors' using unsterile tools and unsafe places.
BUT FEAR NOT. I HAVE A SOLUTION THAT WILL COMPLETELY END THE NEED FOR ABORTIONS. Men get vasectomies, easy, and when you want kids it can be undone. If all men did this no women would get pregnant when they don't want to be :)
But you wouldn't want that because you don't want people controlling your body
Ok , but can we focus on the first this you said? "No, women should not have the right" Im sorry but why did you think that was even close to ok to say.
First off, prison does not nor has it ever effectively detered crime. The U.S leads the world in number of criminals incarcerated yet organized crime is exploding, why? Mainly because Americans choose to drug themselves in spite of the fact that they could go to prison. If you make Choice illegal you create a new form of organized crime by putting it in the bussness of giving people something else they can not obtain legally, not to mention the fact that you turn millions of young females into felons. That is a prosecuted form of sexism on a number of levels not the least of which is denying convicted women voting rights.You are convinced abortion is murder. I respect your conclusion I even validate your right to believe as you do,though you are male. I believe that feminists must engage you at every turn and I will do everything I personally can to see they prevail because I truly believe that ultimately yours is the greater path to destruction.
This whole, "you dont understand and have a say" in abortions because your a male statement is 1, overplayed, and 2,not relevant.
Your claim about banning abortion creating a new form of organized crime is massively ignorant and undeniably incorrect. Technically speaking, abortion in its own right could be considered "organized crime" due to its "legal murder definition actually making it a crime" as well as the fact its ran by a private organization.
Banning abortion does not turn anyone into a felon. Its the choice a person makes to break a law that would make them one. Only the left thinks that way and its the root to so many other problems we have in this country.
I dont think anyone needs to be "convinced" that killing an unborn baby is murder. Facts and common sense should be enough for that.
Today's feminists are nothing more that social justice warriors looking to cherry pick and demand only the so called perks of being a male, which as a male myself ive been looking for them too and yet to find any. There are also more feminists with a dick hanging between their legs in today's world, which is just a mockery of what at one point in time was something worth value as well as worth fighting for.
And FYI, banning the murder of unborn babies is not sexist in any way, shape, or form.
Read carefully sir, I said I validate your right to your opinion and I don't think it has anything to do with your sex and everything to do with your values. That said I will also remind you that as the law exists women are of a free choice. You've made my case for me by indicating what you think should be their consequence. If you in any prosecuted retribution for what you see as injustice you would be the criminal. This is as how I think it should be.
It's not your body, a pregnant woman doesn't have 2 heads, she has one, her baby inside her has it's own seperate DNA, seperate bodies and a seperate future from her mother.
What's the difference between killing an unborn and a newborn, a newborn depends on a mother to survive, a newborn is still developing and a newborn does not have much knowledge / awareness. The only difference is a newborn is breathing, but that doesn't give their life value. What's the difference between abortion and killing a child in a coma, a child in a coma depends on a hospital, is not aware, the only reason you don't kill a child in a coma is if that child has a good chance of escaping a coma, do you get my point? Once a child has a future, it is valueable.
@TheComedicDragon I think you pro-lifers are so focused on the child that you forget there is a mother. It is the mother's choice. And you act as if she doesn't take time to think about her decision. It is a difficult one. If the mother is not ready for a child, then why should she be forced to have one? You wouldn't want anyone to force something on you, so what makes it ok to force it on someone else?
OK, let me start off and say that abortion at this point and time is legal. Please try to remember a little bit back in history when slavery was legal. Now I am NOT saying they are the same thing. No not all even close. However, slavery was legal but just simply because it was legal does NOT make it morally right. I believe we can all agree on both that statement and the fact that I made my point.
Life is worth living. I am expressig my opinion and what I think OK.
That is the persons choice if they do not want a child then they can get an abortion.
I think it is very sad and the baby has done no harm plus then you think why did I ever do that I feel like I want to cry. Yes everyone should take care of thier body but a 1 week baby in your stomach no please just give it some time nd hink over it. Think of the advantages and disadvantages!
abortion is murder. only acceptable circumstance is if the mother’s life is at risk. planned parenthood is disgusting and the values they were built on is repulsive.
Planned Parenthood prevents more abortions than any pro-lifer. Plus Planned parenthood does so much more than abortions, like testing for HIV and AIDs, it provides birth control and long-term, reversible contraception. I'm willing to say they prevent more abortions than they actually do.
If their life is at risk? There are so many more factors to having a child than that. You could have been raped, you may not mentally be prepared fora child, you might not be financially stable, anything. So your point is offically invalid.
i think that third term abortions are not okay but 1st and second are okay there is many reasons women get abortions and i would rather get an abortion that give a child an unstable life. and of course there's foster care and adoption but i know that foster care isn't always the best option.a women has a right to her own body and what is inside of it
Women should be able to kill anything unwanted in their bodies. We kill bacteria and germs when we're sick. Why not kill fetuses too?
If you believe life has value, you also should believe in the future potential life in which the baby has. also, if you believe that killing a 1 month old baby is morally wrong, why is killing an 8 month pregnancy ok? There is little difference between the two and both are incapable of intelligent thought.
I ask you if you truly believe that abortion of a 8 or 9 mouth old baby is OK and is one hundred percent up to the mother then why CAN'T anyone just walk around and take a knife to the head of any babe they see? IT MURDER!!! Your stating that the mother has the right to decide weather a HUMAN babe lives or DIES. Sorry might be just me but that just does not sound that joyful and morally right to me.
@AtMan18 You do realize that as a mother, you have to be mentally stable to have and take care of a child (the right way). Forget being finacially stable bc thats a whole different issue. Your job as a mother is to provide and raise your child. You need to teach the right things and be an example for your child. However not everyone is parent material. The mental, amotional, and physical stress of raising a child is strenuous. If you are not mentally stable FIRST, you cannot have a child. Now you are about to say that they can be adopted. My mother was put in foster care for 5 years of her life. She stayed at different homes and not all of them cared about her or her needs. If you are not adopted...you are put in foster care. Some kids stay in foster care until they are 18 and never get adopted. So adoption isn't a garontee(im 16, lmao i cant spell). If a woman does not want a child, she has the right to get an abortion. Also, if you are a man, you have NO SAY AT ALL. in this matter. So go find something else to debate about. No fetus, no opinion.
Edit: I forgot, if us killing our fetus is murder, then so is nutting without having a child. So i guess you jerking off and nutting on your side chicks face is murder as well. ❤️
The fail safe scenario is to allow unrestricted right of choice.
The pro life argument is that abortion is murder and as long as murder is illegal, abortion should be to.
@TheComedicDragon you are so right
No, women should not have the right to an abortion, especially as easy as they do now. The #1 reason for an abortion is and always has been due to simply not wanting it or being to young and not ready.
Accountability is literally the backbone to the fundamentals that create legal structure. The reason people dont run around committing the crimes they think or wish to do because they know the consequences of that action.
Pregnancy is no more a side effect or risk of having sex as a life sentence or death penalty is to murder.
However, abortion accounts for more murders in this country then psychopaths do,
Dont want a baby? Dont have sex. Dont want a speeding ticket, dont speed. All these solutions are nothing more than an "out" for peoples inability to do the right thing. Its called weakness.
RIGHT. You can't compare having a baby/sex as a crime. They aren't the same. A child is not a punishment on the women for having sex, at least half of the accountability of a pregnancy is on the man as well.
illegalising abortion won't stop abortions, only safe ones. More woman will die because of dodgy, backstreet 'doctors' using unsterile tools and unsafe places.
BUT FEAR NOT. I HAVE A SOLUTION THAT WILL COMPLETELY END THE NEED FOR ABORTIONS. Men get vasectomies, easy, and when you want kids it can be undone. If all men did this no women would get pregnant when they don't want to be :) But you wouldn't want that because you don't want people controlling your body
Ok , but can we focus on the first this you said? "No, women should not have the right" Im sorry but why did you think that was even close to ok to say.
Becoming pregnant is not a crime
First off, prison does not nor has it ever effectively detered crime. The U.S leads the world in number of criminals incarcerated yet organized crime is exploding, why? Mainly because Americans choose to drug themselves in spite of the fact that they could go to prison. If you make Choice illegal you create a new form of organized crime by putting it in the bussness of giving people something else they can not obtain legally, not to mention the fact that you turn millions of young females into felons. That is a prosecuted form of sexism on a number of levels not the least of which is denying convicted women voting rights.You are convinced abortion is murder. I respect your conclusion I even validate your right to believe as you do,though you are male. I believe that feminists must engage you at every turn and I will do everything I personally can to see they prevail because I truly believe that ultimately yours is the greater path to destruction.
This whole, "you dont understand and have a say" in abortions because your a male statement is 1, overplayed, and 2,not relevant.
Your claim about banning abortion creating a new form of organized crime is massively ignorant and undeniably incorrect. Technically speaking, abortion in its own right could be considered "organized crime" due to its "legal murder definition actually making it a crime" as well as the fact its ran by a private organization.
Banning abortion does not turn anyone into a felon. Its the choice a person makes to break a law that would make them one. Only the left thinks that way and its the root to so many other problems we have in this country.
I dont think anyone needs to be "convinced" that killing an unborn baby is murder. Facts and common sense should be enough for that.
Today's feminists are nothing more that social justice warriors looking to cherry pick and demand only the so called perks of being a male, which as a male myself ive been looking for them too and yet to find any. There are also more feminists with a dick hanging between their legs in today's world, which is just a mockery of what at one point in time was something worth value as well as worth fighting for.
And FYI, banning the murder of unborn babies is not sexist in any way, shape, or form.
Read carefully sir, I said I validate your right to your opinion and I don't think it has anything to do with your sex and everything to do with your values. That said I will also remind you that as the law exists women are of a free choice. You've made my case for me by indicating what you think should be their consequence. If you in any prosecuted retribution for what you see as injustice you would be the criminal. This is as how I think it should be.
Well, frankly i dont think abortion should be legal in the first place.
why? why should YOUR opinion affect MY right to make a choice for my own body? please explain
It's not your body, a pregnant woman doesn't have 2 heads, she has one, her baby inside her has it's own seperate DNA, seperate bodies and a seperate future from her mother.
What's the difference between killing an unborn and a newborn, a newborn depends on a mother to survive, a newborn is still developing and a newborn does not have much knowledge / awareness. The only difference is a newborn is breathing, but that doesn't give their life value. What's the difference between abortion and killing a child in a coma, a child in a coma depends on a hospital, is not aware, the only reason you don't kill a child in a coma is if that child has a good chance of escaping a coma, do you get my point? Once a child has a future, it is valueable.
@TheComedicDragon I think you pro-lifers are so focused on the child that you forget there is a mother. It is the mother's choice. And you act as if she doesn't take time to think about her decision. It is a difficult one. If the mother is not ready for a child, then why should she be forced to have one? You wouldn't want anyone to force something on you, so what makes it ok to force it on someone else?
OK, let me start off and say that abortion at this point and time is legal. Please try to remember a little bit back in history when slavery was legal. Now I am NOT saying they are the same thing. No not all even close. However, slavery was legal but just simply because it was legal does NOT make it morally right. I believe we can all agree on both that statement and the fact that I made my point.
Life is worth living. I am expressig my opinion and what I think OK.
That is the persons choice if they do not want a child then they can get an abortion.
I think it is very sad and the baby has done no harm plus then you think why did I ever do that I feel like I want to cry. Yes everyone should take care of thier body but a 1 week baby in your stomach no please just give it some time nd hink over it. Think of the advantages and disadvantages!
abortion is murder. only acceptable circumstance is if the mother’s life is at risk. planned parenthood is disgusting and the values they were built on is repulsive.
Planned Parenthood prevents more abortions than any pro-lifer. Plus Planned parenthood does so much more than abortions, like testing for HIV and AIDs, it provides birth control and long-term, reversible contraception. I'm willing to say they prevent more abortions than they actually do.
If their life is at risk? There are so many more factors to having a child than that. You could have been raped, you may not mentally be prepared fora child, you might not be financially stable, anything. So your point is offically invalid.
@Naomi DuRante go die
i think that third term abortions are not okay but 1st and second are okay there is many reasons women get abortions and i would rather get an abortion that give a child an unstable life. and of course there's foster care and adoption but i know that foster care isn't always the best option.a women has a right to her own body and what is inside of it
Why do you think 1st and 2nd term abortions are okay but not 3rd term?
@tperteete i just think its too close to birth to abort it